The LCD screens on these high-priced “flagship” cameras is a bad joke. As you can see from the photo of the back there’s plenty of room for a larger screen, not to mention an articulated one, but neither is provided. In an age when $200 cell phones ($600 without a contract) come with large beautiful 4 to 4.5 inch screens, how come Canon can only manage to put a small 3.2” one on a $8,000 camera ??
Of course the DSLR manufacturers have been using under-sized screens since the beginning, apparently to provide a reason to upgrade to the next model. The original high-end DSLRs from Canon and Nikon shipped with tiny 1.8 to 2” 100k pixel screens at a time (2004) when much less expensive camcorders from Panasonic and Sony already had 3 to 3.5” 200K pixel monitors.
With the massive amount of wasted space on the back of the Canon 1D they could of provided XLR connectors with plenty of room left over.
This camera will likely suffer from the usual artifacts inherent in sub-sampling an 18 MPixel sensor output down to 2 MPixel HD video resolution. Not to mention the CMOS jellocam problem. For eight grand, serious filmmakers would be better off buying one of the new large-sensor camcorders now starting to arrive.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/19 at 12:11 PM
Hi MikeGT
I believe that they decided no flip screen on the 1d X because a lot of pro stills shooters are not interested in it and that is what this camera is still aimed at for the majority. I’m primarily a stills guy and I would have hated to see an articulating screen on this camera. As for the 3.2’ size, well yes but think of all the things they cram inside there, perhaps there is just not enough room internally. Again from my point of view I don’t desire a bigger screen for my photos I barely look at them on camera.
“With the massive amount of wasted space on the back of the Canon 1D they could of provided XLR connectors with plenty of room left over.”
On this point I have to say I think you are WAY off the mark !! XLR connectors are HUGE. Just because there is some blank space on the back doesn’t mean there is nothing behind the black space internally ! This camera is JAMMED inside with stuff with no room to spare, I guarantee it.
On your last point, maybe , we’ll have to wait and see.
Posted by Dan Carr on 10/21 at 09:36 AM
> hated to see an articulating screen on this camera
Huh ? This would of been a good thing, why would you of “hated” it ?? Especially on such a bulky and heavy camera, an articulated screen would be a godsend.
> things they cram inside there, perhaps there is just not enough room
What things? This camera doesn’t do anything you can’t do with their full-frame 5D model, which is
a fraction of the size and weight. Unless you have actually opened up one of these cameras, you should not assume what’s inside it or how “crammed” it may or not be. This class of cameras are built large and heavy because professional photographers prefer this. Many working photographers are afraid that their clients would consider a small lightweight camera to be un-professional. Silly but true.
> maybe , we’ll have to wait and see.
No we don’t. You can’t get around the laws of physics. To get 2 million pixels out of 18 million, you have to basically throw-away about 75% of the sensor’s output. I think there was an excellent article on how DSLR video is compromised by this issue a while back on this very web-site.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/21 at 11:41 AM
Mike,
I simply have no use for a swivel screen for the work that I do. This camera is still designed primarily to appeal to still photo shooters, in particular sports shooters (myself included). We’ve just no need for that feature. I’ve never wanted it and would hate to see it because having used the swivel screen on the 60D, I can see it being a point of failure on a body that is designed to be extremely rugged like the 1D.
Things Inside:
Remove a battery from one of these and take a look inside Mike. Most of the additional bulk over a 5d is battery. It’s also not just about is there space, it’s also where is that space.
Of course physics will come into play in your last point everyone knows the issues! But really what is your point ?! That they should have made a 2k sensor so there was no line skipping ? This is a stills camera Mike! You said ‘usual artifacts’ my point is that they have sure made some improvements in that area. So they will be better than before.
There are going to be sacrifices, if that’s not your bag then wait until November 3rd. Simple as that. People who use these cameras understand that there are going to be sacrifices but they usually do it for the form factor.
I guess I don’t really get why there are complaints about the lack of all these things when it’s primary design is NOT to shoot video. They will always please their primary targets first.
Posted by Dan Carr on 10/24 at 10:11 AM
“I guess I don’t really get why there are complaints about the lack of all these things when it’s primary design is NOT to shoot video. They will always please their primary targets first. “
I dont get that either! Primary targets is to shoot photo’s and not video’s!
Posted by fruitdieet on 10/25 at 02:15 AM
Did either one of you half-wits read the title of the article ?
Apparently the both of you have been living in a cave for the past few years and as a result missed the entire DSLR video revolution.
Today, plenty of folks buy these cameras primarily to shoot video, not stills. The video functionality of this class of cameras can no longer be considered of secondary importance.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/25 at 03:10 AM
Mike,
I WROTE THE ARTICLE. So yes , thank you I did read the title that I gave it. The 1dX has video features so let’s explore them, why not? Again, not really sure what your point is there, nobody is disputing that video features are available. Equally nobody is disputing that plenty of people will shoot video with this.
‘Plenty of folks’ is still a tiny number of people compared to the number of cameras they sell. Do you honestly think they are selling as many 1-series cameras to video pros as they are selling to stills shooters ? Are you kidding me ? Yes DSLR was a revolution, there’s no disputing that, but a revolution in a tiny sector.
The one camera that is nearly an exception is the 5d2, that one was sold in great numbers for video use in the US. BUT in other markets, mainly Europe and Asia the video usage paled in comparison to the stills usage so overall the proportion is still tiny. And that is their best selling camera for video. You can argue with me on this all you want Mike but just take a look at all the marketing material for this new camera. The reason I had to write this post was that they did not make a song and dance about any of these features so I wanted to highlight them.
Did you know that in the Asian press release for this camera it doesn’t mention EVEN ONCE that the camera is even capable of shooting video ?
This camera with it’s 61 AF points (which cant be used for video) and it’s 18MP sensor (which is pointless for video) and it’s 12 frames per second (which can’t be used for video) IS A STILLS CAMERA. Get over it and buy whatever Canon is going to launch on Nov. 3rd.
When they launch this new video camera I’m sure that it will take photos of some sort too. Should I run around making a song and dance about how it doesn’t have a big enough MP count for photos, or doesn’t have a good AF system. No I will go an buy a stills camera if I want to get all those features.
Oh and let’s try and stay courteous Mike. Calling people half-witted cave dwellers is unnecessary.
Posted by Dan Carr on 10/25 at 09:40 AM
> ‘Plenty of folks’ is still a tiny number of people compared to the number of cameras they sell.
Based upon what? Your intuition? Almost all DLSRs now support video shooting. It’s doubtful all this was done to support “a tiny number” of people.
> mainly Europe and Asia the video usage paled in comparison to the stills usage
Again, based on what? Did Canon or the other DSLR makers tell you this? Also Europe apparently has some weird tax law where camcorders are taxed higher than still cameras, this is one of the reasons why the continous recording time is limited, also probably why in certain parts of the world the video capabilities are not loudly advertised.
> 12 frames per second
It’s statements like this that make me want to use terms like “half-wit” again! The 12 fps limitation is for 18 megapixel stills, not 2 megapixel movies which the camera can shoot at least at 30 fps, probably faster. If you don’t understand this then you have no business writing articles for a “Pro Photo” web site.
I also referenced half-wits and cave dwellers because your previous reply was amazingly condescending. If you don’t like being talked to this way then don’t do it to others.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 10/25 at 10:06 AM
Mike,
Don’t try and make it sound like I don’t know the difference between 12 FPS stills and 30 FPS video. Come on now… My point was that the headline features which Canon are singing about are 61 AF points, 18MP and 12 FPS. I didn’t think it was necessary to 12fps ‘for stills’ in there or something like that. There’s no need to dumb it down like that for most people, they know the difference.
European tax laws have nothing to do with this. There is additional tax for cameras that record over 30 mins, but this camera does not so it’s not a factor.
‘also probably why in certain parts of the world the video capabilities are not loudly advertised.’
If there was an applicable tax, I don’t think that simply not talking about the video features would sneak these cameras past the relevant tax agencies Mike, this is a multi billion dollar industry.
I’m not going to waste my time anymore going over the relative sizes of the industry with you.
Posted by Dan Carr on 10/25 at 10:35 AM
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